Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan?

“And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.” -  Job 1:7
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Answer: GOD

I counted the number of people that were killed by God in the Bible. I came up with 2,038,344. Now, of course that greatly underestimates God’s total kill score.  I only included those killings for which specific numbers are given.  There are many events in the Bible where no number of fatalities are given.  Noah’s flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, etc all are unknown variables, likely to push this number well over 30 million (see below).

Satan on the other is documented as killing only 10 people in the written text of the Bible.  Even those 10 are suspect, as God basically allows Satan to do the killings as part of a “bet” (Job’s family).  Don’t believe me?  Here’s the scripture:

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job … And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.

And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the LORD … put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house…And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. – Job 1:1-19

So there you have it.  Confused?  So am I.

Now to take this one step further, let’s put some real world numbers to the rest of God’s killings.

SAB, Brick Testament Proof Number Killed Cummulative Total
God drowns everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23 30,000,000 30,000,000
God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Gen.19:24 1000 30,001,000
Lot’s wife for looking back Gen.19:26 1 30,001,001
Er who was “wicked in the sight of the Lord” Gen.38:7, 1 Chr.2:3 1 30,001,002
Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10 1 30,001,003
7th Egyptian Plague: Hail Exodus 9:25 30,000 30,031,003
God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. Ex.12:29-30 500,000 30,531,003
God drowns Egyptian army Ex.14:28 1000 30,532,003
God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites Ex.17:13 1000 30,533,003
For dancing naked around Aaron’s golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35 3000 30,536,003
Aaron’s sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61 2 30,536,005
A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23 1 30,536,006
God burned to death an unknown number for complaining Numbers 11:1 100 30,536,106
God sent “a very great plague” for complaining about the food. Num.11:33 10,000 30,546,106
God killed those who murmured with a plague. Num.14:35-36 100 30,546,206
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32-36 1 30,546,207
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27 12+ 30,546,219
Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10 250 30,546,469
For complaining Num.16:49 14,700 30,561,169
Massacre of the Aradites Num.21:1-3 3000 30,564,169
For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died. Num.21:6 100 30,564,269
God delivers the Bashanites into Moses’ hands and Moses kills everyone “until there was none left alive.” Num.21:34-35 1000 30,565,269
For “committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab” Num.25:9 24,000 30,589,269
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35 90,000+ 30,679,269
The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim Deuteronomy 2:21-22 5000 30,684,269
God hardened the king of Heshbon’s heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities) Dt.2:33-34 3000 30,687,269
God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people. Dt.3:3-6 60,000 30,747,269
Massacre of Jericho Joshua 6:21 1000 30,748,269
God tells Joshua to stone to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26 5+ 30,748,274
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25 12,000 30,760,274
God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them “along the way” as they try to escape. Joshua 10:10-11 1000 30,761,274
Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees Joshua 10:24-26 5 30,761,279
Massacre of 7 cities Joshua 10:28-42 7000 30,768,279
God delivers the Hazorites. Joshua 11:8-12 1000 30,769,279
Massacre of the Anakim Joshua 11:20-21 1000 30,770,279
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4 10,000 30,780,279
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king’s belly Jg.3:15-22 1 30,780,280
God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29 10,000 30,790,280
Massacre of the Canaanites Jg.4:15 1000 30,791,280
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10 120,000 30,911,280
God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter. Jg.11:32-33 1000 30,912,280
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19 30 30,912,310
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15 1000 30,913,310
Samson’s God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30 3000 30,916,310
“The Lord smote Benjamin” Jg.20:35-37 25,100 30,941,410
More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 30,966,410
For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19 50,070 31,016,480
God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12 20 31,016,500
God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other. 1 Sam.14:20 1000 31,017,500
God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child. 1 Sam.15:2-3 1000 31,018,500
Samuel (at God’s command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33 1 31,018,501
God delivers the Philistines. 1 Sam.23:2-5 1000 31,019,501
“The Lord smote Nabal.” 1 Sam.25:38 1 31,019,502
God delivers the Philistines to David (again). 2 Sam.5:19, 25 1000 31,020,502
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 31,020,503
David and Bathsheba’s baby boy 2 Samuel 12:14-18 1 31,020,504
God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did. 2 Sam.21:1 5000 31,025,504
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 31,025,511
From plague as punishment for David’s census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 31,095,511
A prophet for believing another prophet’s lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 31,095,512
Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam “according to the saying of the Lord.” 1 Kings 15:29 1000 31,096,512
Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha “according to the word of the Lord.” 1 Kg.16:11-12 1000 31,097,512
Religious leaders killed in a prayer contest 1 Kg.18:22-40 450 31,097,962
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites’ hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 31,197,962
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 31,224,962
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 31,224,963
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 31,224,964
Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 31,225,066
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha’s bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 31,225,108
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 31,225,109
God calls for a seven year famine. 2 Kg.8:1 10,000 31,235,109
Jezebel 2 Kg.9:33-37 1 31,235,110
Jehu killed “all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria … according to the saying of the Lord” 2 Kg.10:16-17 100 31,235,210
God sent lions to kill “some” foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 31,235,213
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 31,420,213
Saul 1 Chronicles 10:14 1 31,420,214
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 500,000 31,920,214
Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 31,920,215
“The Lord smote the Ethiopians.” 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 32,920,215
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 32,920,216
Judean soldiers because they had forsaken the Lord 2 Chr.28:6 120,000 33,040,216
God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans. 2 Chr.36:16-17 1000 33,041,216
Ezekiel’s wife Ezekiel 24:15-18 1 33,041,217
Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2 33,041,219
Herod Acts 12:23 1 33,041,220

Sure makes you question that “All Loving God” stuff huh?

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56 Responses to “Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan?”

  1. David Murray #

    Well, it definitely raises an eyebrow, it’s hard to argue with the facts. But I’m not 100% sure the bible ever mentions that Satan’s goal is to kill people.

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  2. Uhm. You need to read your Bible more. ;-)

    John 10:10 says Satan’s only purpose is to “Steal, KILL, and Destroy.”

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    • Sophie #

      Exactly.

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    • John Beaubien #

      How could Satan compete with an asshole like God

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    • John Beaubien #

      John 10:10 says Satan’s only purpose is to “Steal, KILL, and Destroy.”

      wow…thats threatening

      this was a really depressing but very well organized piece of research. It is very hard to look at all the acts of God and words of Satan (which one? there are at least 4) its very easy to determine who the real bad guy of the story is. Beyong God’s penchant for random slaughter and ethnic cleansing, its also worth taking the attitudes of this thing to trial. My favourite attribulte is all the threats towards grandchildren uttered by Yahweh in the 10 Commandments. I used to actually believe all this shit – spent 11 years studying it. But the only humane conclusion is that if this is a true representation of God, then God is truly evil. I don’t care much for his racial views – but a good reading of Marcion would shed some light. He was the first christian heretic – he believed that Yahweh was so evil that there must have been a 2nd God – Jesus daddy

      Unlike other fairy tales – this one has gotten people killed – so religious thought must be treated as dangerous, psychotic and dillusional notions that affect and infect the most vulnerable and gullable… oh wait – almost every one …

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    • Brent #

      Yeah, but it still doesn’t give examples of him “killing”. Still he did make many suffer and cause them to commit suicide but he never really killed them.

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  4. Johnson #

    By the way…you forgot to put Jesus on there under God’s list…
    He sent his only son to die for us. Tell me that’s not love.

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  5. Craig #

    Johnson,

    Don’t end the discussion. Feel free to debate! :)

    You’re right that its not just the sheer numbers but the reason for people dying. I can totally see how deaths might be justified in some cases for the good of the people, for example in a war to defend ones nation or an intruder invading your home.

    However, if you look at the reasons for Jehova killing people that Mike mentions, such as Lot’s wife, the first born of the egyptians or the famine for something Saul did, these don’t seem very good reasons IMHO. Jehova seems to be a very jealous, angry and unforgiving god. Many times, jehova punishes the innocent right along with the guilty.

    I won’t comment in detail on jesus, but simply say that things change in the new testament quite a bit.

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    • Elena Saver #

      You mean to say that after Jesus the millions lost to every “holy war” (Hindu vs Christians vs Muslims vs Palestinian, etc.) were not killed by God, but because of His Son? Nice change, we must be greateful!

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      • Jamie #

        Ok, I see your point on the holy war bit, but who said God or Jesus are backing any of the religions? Its only the people who say that they are killing in the name of God. In this instance, I think God has decided to let the people fighting the “holy war” receive their untimely end and help save the innocent and people who want to keep peace.

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    • Mr Mr #

      I thought God was all about love and forgiveness. Why should he be allowed to kill? He breaks his own commandments by doing so, so shouldn’t be setting the example? God gave man free will, that means they are on their own and he shouldn’t punish for creating humans the way HE WANTED TO.

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  7. ben #

    It would be interesting to dig a bit more these figures. How about spreading the events along a timeline? classifying them by motive? and placing them geographically?

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      • Kyle #

        MM – Consider that everything on earth happens according to God’s wonderful and mysterious plan. If this is true, then all abortions are part of God’s plan as are the actions of Hitler, Stalin and all the other murderous deeds in the world.

        Believers apply an interesting technique to maintain their belief in the Bible; they ignore the plain text of the Bible and replace it with a hidden meaning that is not found within.

        If the Bible is the perfect an unerring word of God Almighty Himself, why does it require the interpretation of an imperfect and sinful human to make sense of it? And thus, does this process not render the word of God imperfect?

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  9. Dario #

    Lets say, I have 8 children. They are good kids… but one of them, Mike, has been hanging out with a kid from school(Mark). I have told Mike that Mark is a bad influence. Mike just keeps disobeying me so I kill him along with Mary, because she was in his room at the time I went to kill Mike. Who’s to blame for? Mark for being a bad influence, or Me, his father that gave him life and took it away. The police? They can’t do anything to me… can they? I killed Mike for his own good and I gave him life in the first place… Mary, she was nice, but too close to the rotten apple.

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  11. You were right the first time, guy: God is a monster.

    I was told by my pastor to get to know the character of God, and I did. Suffice to say my Christianity didn’t keep in the face of the Biblical God’s boundless hate.

    The good news is that we soon will no longer need to be concerned with the aftetlife since medical technology is reaching toward bodily immortality. The ultimate fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is the fruit of the Tree of Life.

    On that note, God punishes intelligence and rewards ignorance under the guise of innocence. God also created the Devil and punishes him for doing exactly what he was designed to do. Don’t give me that “free will” yarn, either. Free will obviously means nothing to God since he doesn’t mind hardening Pharaoh’s heart in order to continue torturing the Egyptians…

    People need to stop treating that vulgar tome like a license agreement and actually read the thing.

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    • cecilia carola #

      I TOTALLY AGREE! SATIN INVENTED ALL SIN ON EARTH AND BEYOND. NOT SATAN, SATIN: THE EVILEST OF ALL THE FABRICS.

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  13. who invented sin…oh thats right SATIN…how many people have died from sin…hmmm lemy think….evey murder….every accsedent….oh thats right a HUGE NUMBER!!!! WHY DO U THINK GOD WILL KILL PEOPLE FOR NO RESON!!!!!!! LIKE IF U MADE SOMTHING WITH LEGOS THAT TOOK U A LONG TIME…U WOULDNT GO IN A TAKE IT ALL DOWN FOR NO RESON!!!!

    Yeah… and who created “Satin”? It’s spelled Satan by the way… and the answer would be God.

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  14. Steve #

    I didn’t see the 70,000 men killed by the plague God sent as punishment for David doing a census in 1 Chronicles chapter 20. That’s one of my favorites since God makes David choose from three punishments (famine, lose a war, or the plague). Sort of like making a kid go out and cut the switch with which you’re going to whip him.

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      • Holy diver #

        Yep, not confining Satan to hell for causing a rebellion in heaven and leading a band of rebel angels against God is a good thing. But me burning in hell for eternity for eating meat on friday during lent and not repenting about it, well that makes perfect sense. Especially considering fish is no longer the food of the poor in this day and age, and not anyone can just go out and fish without a license anymore.

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  17. Holy diver #

    Here’s another fun fact. There is nothing in the bible that states that Satan is condemned to hell.

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  18. Holy diver #

    Also…you have to keep in mind. In the book of Job, God returns all of Job’s friends and family that was killed off as a reward for his commitment to God. So in some cases Satan was just an attempted murder.

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    • user 33 #

      He doesn’t return his sons and daughters. they are still dead. as are all his servants. at the end of the story it says that his brothers and sisters return to him (it definately does not mention the children and servants that were killed), presumably they kept their distance thinking that he had done something wicked to deserve his fate. it clearly says that he had seven sons and three daughters post being tortured by satan at god’s bequest, not that his dead children were resurrected

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  19. Rob #

    How did you come up with those statistics? I don’t recall many exact numbers
    being used in the Bible.

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  20. who invented sin…oh thats right SATIN…how many people have died from sin…hmmm lemy think….evey murder….every accsedent….oh thats right a HUGE NUMBER!!!! WHY DO U THINK GOD WILL KILL PEOPLE FOR NO RESON!!!!!!! LIKE IF U MADE SOMTHING WITH LEGOS THAT TOOK U A LONG TIME…U WOULDNT GO IN A TAKE IT ALL DOWN FOR NO RESON!!!!

    Dude if you really read YWHW created all that mean everything. Satan only showed man kind thru the fruit the difference between things. He has shown us many things that YWHW has hidden from us. Unlike your tyrant god Satan shows us how to be self reliant and to illuminate our selves which elevates us to be better.

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  21. Here’s another fun fact.There is nothing in the bible that states that Satan is condemned to hell.

    actually in the book of revalations it says he will be cast into the lake of fire. But for the most part you are right. but he does rule the kingdom of hell though.

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  22. Also, think about why you are not dead here today…..Think about why you know about Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour of the world. If it was not for the grace of God, we would not be here today.

    The reason why we know of that vile person is because you christians raped and forced your shit upon others. I consider my self evil and of Satan but I nor Satan are anything like your god.

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  23. You were right the first time, guy:God is a monster.

    I was told by my pastor to get to know the character of God, and I did.Suffice to say my Christianity didn’t keep in the face of the Biblical God’s boundless hate.

    The good news is that we soon will no longer need to be concerned with the aftetlife since medical technology is reaching toward bodily immortality.The ultimate fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is the fruit of the Tree of Life.

    On that note, God punishes intelligence and rewards ignorance under the guise of innocence.God also created the Devil and punishes him for doing exactly what he was designed to do.Don’t give me that “free will” yarn, either.Free will obviously means nothing to God since he doesn’t mind hardening Pharaoh’s heart in order to continue torturing the Egyptians…

    People need to stop treating that vulgar tome like a license agreement and actually read the thing.

    so then why are you still a christian if you still are that is?

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  24. Kreft #

    You should stop looking for culprits and start looking at the God described in the Bible.

    He created humanity and gave them free will… and then he blamed them because they did not behave the way he wanted humanity to behave. He created a wide range of angels, but then when one of them thought differently, he banished him to hell. Well, if you didn’t want them to behave in other ways than you wanted them to, you shouldn’t have given them that choice.

    You don’t tell your kid “do whatever you want” and then blame him if he does something you don’t like.

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    • Except for the fact its all bullshit.

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    • Kyle #

      More pretzel logic as a result of drinking the Kool-Aid

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  26. Eric F. #

    I’m sorry but this is downright asinine. An omnipotent God would be responsible for all deaths on earth not just those mentioned in stories. If you have a quarrel with good vs evil welcome to the conversation. There is nothing new or original about questioning the “goodness” of God. Maybe your question shouldn’t be the role of God but rather the role of Satan in the Bible. Furthermore, everyone trying to disprove another person’s religion anywhere needn’t bother. You come off more foolish than the religious nuts. It takes faith to believe anything so for you to try and logically debate a person’s belief is like running on a treadmill… You may feel like you’ve achieved something but really you have just been running in place. The atheists and the Catholics, the Mormons and the Muslims all need faith in what they believe to keep doing so. I think we need more people in this world who subscribe to the belief of “I don’t know”… Then we may start moving forward again.

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    • Kyle #

      @ Eric F – Eric, you have applied the term “faith” to both believers and non-believers; which is inaccurate and obfuscates the conversation. I reject your premise that non-believers require faith just as Catholics, Mormons and Muslims. I also reject the use of the term atheists. Why does the language have a specific pejorative created for the sole purpose of denigrating those who fail to subscribe to a concept in the absence of proof. Many people do not believe in leprechauns, unicorns or the tooth-fairy and yet our language does not create a specific word to denigrate these non-believers. But as to your application of the term faith as it applies to those who are non-believers, I submit the following rational thought.

      Believers must have faith, which, by definition is a belief held in the absence of proof. Non-believers do not require faith because they simply reject the concept of a deity inn the absence of any quantifiable proof. That is not faith, that is called logic. An unwillingness to subscribe to an unsubstantiated claim does not fall into the category of faith. For instance, if you do not believe in Santa Claus, does that imply that you have faith that Santa Claus does not exist? No, it means you don’t believe in Santa because no reasonable proof has ever been offered (if you are above the age of say seven or so).

      However, the creation of religious dogma has often been an attempt to explain the unknown. So in that vein I would agree it would be reasonable to simply say “I don’t know” in response to a query into such perplexing curiosities such as “how was the earth created” instead of postulating some bullshit hypothesis that relies on some mystical deity to explain away the unknown. Conversely it is perfectly reasonable to declare no god exists until some proof is offered. We can easily declare that leprechauns do not exist, unicorns do not exist, the tooth-fairy does not exist, Bigfoot does not exist, and so on and these declarations are not based on “faith” as you so irresponsibly claim.

      Your attempt to convince me places you firmly on your treadmill and more foolish that both the atheists an the religious nuts, whom you claim superiority over. When you learn the difference between faith and reason or logic, then you can move forward again.

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  27. Brian Kochman #

    33 million dead is your complaint? And if a plague wipes out billions, who will you blame for that? Exactly what does God owe to humanity, humanity has become vile. Plain and simple.

    And basically your argument is that the devil cares more about humans than God does and Why wouldn’t he, they have done his work well.

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  28. Uhm.You need to read your Bible more.

    John 10:10 says Satan’s only purpose is to “Steal, KILL, and Destroy.”

    It may say that but the bible its self proves this wrong by other verses moron. Stupid christian always using my god as a scapegoat.

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  29. Galent Dysley #

    FACT is there’s no such thing as a GOD.

    No need to argue.

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    May 16, 2012 at 3:52 am Reply
    • Haha. :-) Nice.

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  30. Atheist #

    Some idiots say God kills because we’re sinned or he can because he created us,but he loves us.
    And if a father kills his son is it a crime?Hell yeah.

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  31. Dan #

    What many people are claiming here is that God does not have the right to punish as he sees fit, that he has no right to destroy the enemies of his own people. It’s a silly exercise to regulate Gods rights. And No one bothered to catalogue his mercy. Also, a serious reading of the Bible will prove Satan to be a tool of God – see the example of Job. God doesn’t need to kill because Satan is more than willing to do it. God simply has to step back and let him.

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  32. Alikee Dobbing #

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  33. Darren Brady #

    Uninformed subjective reasoning, Satans goal is to own souls after death not to slay them in life,why would satan kill someone evil?, the black and white death of figures in the Bible was merely to express to the early Jews limited understanding as to the effect of sin and evil on their immortal soul, everyone who died in the Bible would have had the same choice of salvation through Jesus Christ after their death in the same way the good people and prophets etc were raised up alongside Jesus, in order to understand you would need to believe in the existence of God, and your own immortal soul

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  34. kitty guy #

    If you say more irony, one category is not enough.
    So …. Is “human”.

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