Comments for Religico http://www.religico.com Debating Religion and Science Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:07:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Jamie http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1690 Jamie Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:07:15 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1690 Ok, I see your point on the holy war bit, but who said God or Jesus are backing any of the religions? Its only the people who say that they are killing in the name of God. In this instance, I think God has decided to let the people fighting the "holy war" receive their untimely end and help save the innocent and people who want to keep peace. Ok, I see your point on the holy war bit, but who said God or Jesus are backing any of the religions? Its only the people who say that they are killing in the name of God. In this instance, I think God has decided to let the people fighting the “holy war” receive their untimely end and help save the innocent and people who want to keep peace.

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Eric F. http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1688 Eric F. Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:46:37 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1688 I'm sorry but this is downright asinine. An omnipotent God would be responsible for all deaths on earth not just those mentioned in stories. If you have a quarrel with good vs evil welcome to the conversation. There is nothing new or original about questioning the "goodness" of God. Maybe your question shouldn't be the role of God but rather the role of Satan in the Bible. Furthermore, everyone trying to disprove another person's religion anywhere needn't bother. You come off more foolish than the religious nuts. It takes faith to believe anything so for you to try and logically debate a person's belief is like running on a treadmill... You may feel like you've achieved something but really you have just been running in place. The atheists and the Catholics, the Mormons and the Muslims all need faith in what they believe to keep doing so. I think we need more people in this world who subscribe to the belief of "I don't know"... Then we may start moving forward again. I’m sorry but this is downright asinine. An omnipotent God would be responsible for all deaths on earth not just those mentioned in stories. If you have a quarrel with good vs evil welcome to the conversation. There is nothing new or original about questioning the “goodness” of God. Maybe your question shouldn’t be the role of God but rather the role of Satan in the Bible. Furthermore, everyone trying to disprove another person’s religion anywhere needn’t bother. You come off more foolish than the religious nuts. It takes faith to believe anything so for you to try and logically debate a person’s belief is like running on a treadmill… You may feel like you’ve achieved something but really you have just been running in place. The atheists and the Catholics, the Mormons and the Muslims all need faith in what they believe to keep doing so. I think we need more people in this world who subscribe to the belief of “I don’t know”… Then we may start moving forward again.

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by MONK http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1687 MONK Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:41:27 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1687 Dear Mortals, I hope you shall comprehend this. The logic behind all of this is truly simple, God = CREATOR, being so we are not dealing with something that can be limited to the rules He created. The giver of life is the ONLY one with authority to take it away, for He owns all things. Satan is a rebelious creature that wishes to be God, yet the created cannot surpass its creator... That being said God can kill or end the life of whoever He wishes whenever He intends to do so. Now what is worst? Think for only 1 minute that maybe there is a God creator of all things, and that the big guy did give us one book to read and comprehend Him. For us to spend eternity with the creator all we have to do is follow what he designed us to do. Now there is this guy called Lucifer, he thinks he´s better than the creator. The problem is he has convinced most people of the same, causing them to ignore, despise and hate their own CREATOR, giver of life. Think about it as a sustainable world, if we destroy nature... we are busted. If we abandone the Creator... Boom-yeah! The one reponsible for the Billions of people who stand up against God is... let me guess... o yeah! Satan. No he ain´t guilty of anything, he must be a nice fellow. I think the wisest thing to do is deny the CREATOR of all things and run after what we want... I mean we aren´t gonna die very soon, there still must be some time... whats eternity compared to the next few "fun" years I´m gonna truly "enojy" my life... Sad but true... Dear Mortals,

I hope you shall comprehend this.

The logic behind all of this is truly simple, God = CREATOR, being so we are not dealing with something that can be limited to the rules He created. The giver of life is the ONLY one with authority to take it away, for He owns all things. Satan is a rebelious creature that wishes to be God, yet the created cannot surpass its creator… That being said God can kill or end the life of whoever He wishes whenever He intends to do so.

Now what is worst? Think for only 1 minute that maybe there is a God creator of all things, and that the big guy did give us one book to read and comprehend Him. For us to spend eternity with the creator all we have to do is follow what he designed us to do. Now there is this guy called Lucifer, he thinks he´s better than the creator. The problem is he has convinced most people of the same, causing them to ignore, despise and hate their own CREATOR, giver of life.

Think about it as a sustainable world, if we destroy nature… we are busted. If we abandone the Creator… Boom-yeah! The one reponsible for the Billions of people who stand up against God is… let me guess… o yeah! Satan. No he ain´t guilty of anything, he must be a nice fellow. I think the wisest thing to do is deny the CREATOR of all things and run after what we want… I mean we aren´t gonna die very soon, there still must be some time… whats eternity compared to the next few “fun” years I´m gonna truly “enojy” my life…

Sad but true…

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Kreft http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1686 Kreft Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:57:56 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1686 You should stop looking for culprits and start looking at the God described in the Bible. He created humanity and gave them free will... and then he blamed them because they did not behave the way he wanted humanity to behave. He created a wide range of angels, but then when one of them thought differently, he banished him to hell. Well, if you didn't want them to behave in other ways than you wanted them to, you shouldn't have given them that choice. You don't tell your kid "do whatever you want" and then blame him if he does something you don't like. You should stop looking for culprits and start looking at the God described in the Bible.

He created humanity and gave them free will… and then he blamed them because they did not behave the way he wanted humanity to behave. He created a wide range of angels, but then when one of them thought differently, he banished him to hell. Well, if you didn’t want them to behave in other ways than you wanted them to, you shouldn’t have given them that choice.

You don’t tell your kid “do whatever you want” and then blame him if he does something you don’t like.

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Elena Saver http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1684 Elena Saver Tue, 08 Nov 2011 01:54:09 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1684 You mean to say that after Jesus the millions lost to every "holy war" (Hindu vs Christians vs Muslims vs Palestinian, etc.) were not killed by God, but because of His Son? Nice change, we must be greateful! You mean to say that after Jesus the millions lost to every “holy war” (Hindu vs Christians vs Muslims vs Palestinian, etc.) were not killed by God, but because of His Son? Nice change, we must be greateful!

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]]> Comment on Noah’s Ark On Trial by Henry http://www.religico.com/2011/03/06/noahs-ark-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-1683 Henry Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:54:16 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=274#comment-1683 There are a variety of issues I believe have been missed in the above discussion: 1. The ark was a certain number of "cubits" in size. But how long is a cubit? By today's standard we usually say it is about 18". However, I belive man was much bigger in those days - on average as much as 10 to 12 feet tall. If so, their "cubit" would have probably been about twice as big, making the ark about twice as big, which could have held many more animals, as well as food and supplies. 2. I tend to believe that God severly limited the number of species that were brought aboard, and those species later "expanded", so to speak. Further, I don't think insects count for much. They tend to be able to take care of themselves very nicely under a variety or circumstances. 3. The geography of the earth was very different prior to the flood. Mt. Everest did not exist. There were no great oceans or mountain chains like we have today. The earth was much more uniform. What are referred to in Genesis as "mountains" were what we would simply call hills today. This was also the very first time it had ever rained (which is why most people did not believe Noah when he preached to them for 120 years). So where did all of this water come from? The Bible refers to the breaking up of the "fountains of the deep" and the "floodgates of heaven were opened". The earth was watered by major amounts of dew that came up from the ground at night. This is the "fountains of the deep". In addition, the earth was surrounded by a large "ocean" of water in the atmosphere which kept out UV rays and kept the entire earth, from pole to pole, a uniform tempature, similar to the tropics today, sort of like a hothouse. This is the "floodgates of heaven". All of this water is what flooded the earth and then drained from what is today dry land and formed what today are the oceans. God also caused a huge upheaval of the earth's crust, which is where we get today's major land features, including things like the huge mountain chains. 4. Lastly, but by far most important, does God exist or not? If not, none of the above matters. But if so, what kind of a God is He? Does He have human-like limitations and frailities or is He in fact all-powerful and all-knowing, etc. If He isn't all-powerful, then what good is He? He is no better than any Greek or Roman god. But if He is what the Bible claims He is, why couldn't He have done exactly what Genesis says He did? Including, but not limited to, for example: - limiting the animals appetite while on the ark and providing for them afterward until vegetation returned to normal; - Even if the ark was overloaded (and maybe it was), simply making sure it survived. After all, He is GOD. - Making sure they reproduced adequately after the flood until their numbers could withstand natural feeding. - Any number of other provisions for the entire scenario to work out successfully. Bottom line: If we are going to believe in God in the first place, why are we always attempting to limit what He can and cannot do? Instead of finding excuses to doubt the Bible, why not use FAITH to simply accept what is written. Again, if He is an all-powerful God, could He not have simply made sure that the Bible was in fact accurate? God will give us enough information to get us successfully through this life if we let Him, and we we will get all the other answers to things we don't understand now when we get to heaven. God bless. Please just believe and stop the doubt. Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Donald (Disciple of Satan) http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 Donald (Disciple of Satan) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:05:31 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1682 <blockquote cite="comment-1076"> You were right the first time, guy:God is a monster. I was told by my pastor to get to know the character of God, and I did.Suffice to say my Christianity didn’t keep in the face of the Biblical God’s boundless hate. The good news is that we soon will no longer need to be concerned with the aftetlife since medical technology is reaching toward bodily immortality.The ultimate fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is the fruit of the Tree of Life. On that note, God punishes intelligence and rewards ignorance under the guise of innocence.God also created the Devil and punishes him for doing exactly what he was designed to do.Don’t give me that “free will” yarn, either.Free will obviously means nothing to God since he doesn’t mind hardening Pharaoh’s heart in order to continue torturing the Egyptians… People need to stop treating that vulgar tome like a license agreement and actually read the thing. </blockquote> so then why are you still a christian if you still are that is?

You were right the first time, guy:God is a monster.

I was told by my pastor to get to know the character of God, and I did.Suffice to say my Christianity didn’t keep in the face of the Biblical God’s boundless hate.

The good news is that we soon will no longer need to be concerned with the aftetlife since medical technology is reaching toward bodily immortality.The ultimate fruit of the Tree of Knowledge is the fruit of the Tree of Life.

On that note, God punishes intelligence and rewards ignorance under the guise of innocence.God also created the Devil and punishes him for doing exactly what he was designed to do.Don’t give me that “free will” yarn, either.Free will obviously means nothing to God since he doesn’t mind hardening Pharaoh’s heart in order to continue torturing the Egyptians…

People need to stop treating that vulgar tome like a license agreement and actually read the thing.

so then why are you still a christian if you still are that is?

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Donald (Disciple of Satan) http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1681 Donald (Disciple of Satan) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:01:32 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1681 <blockquote cite="comment-1665"> Also, think about why you are not dead here today…..Think about why you know about Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour of the world. If it was not for the grace of God, we would not be here today. </blockquote> The reason why we know of that vile person is because you christians raped and forced your shit upon others. I consider my self evil and of Satan but I nor Satan are anything like your god.

Also, think about why you are not dead here today…..Think about why you know about Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour of the world. If it was not for the grace of God, we would not be here today.

The reason why we know of that vile person is because you christians raped and forced your shit upon others. I consider my self evil and of Satan but I nor Satan are anything like your god.

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Donald (Disciple of Satan) http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1680 Donald (Disciple of Satan) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:59:27 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1680 <blockquote cite="comment-1672"> Here’s another fun fact.There is nothing in the bible that states that Satan is condemned to hell. </blockquote> actually in the book of revalations it says he will be cast into the lake of fire. But for the most part you are right. but he does rule the kingdom of hell though.

Here’s another fun fact.There is nothing in the bible that states that Satan is condemned to hell.

actually in the book of revalations it says he will be cast into the lake of fire. But for the most part you are right. but he does rule the kingdom of hell though.

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]]> Comment on Who killed more people in the Bible? God or Satan? by Donald (Disciple of Satan) http://www.religico.com/2009/12/17/who-killed-more-people-in-the-bible-god-or-satan/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 Donald (Disciple of Satan) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:58:13 +0000 http://www.religico.com/?p=182#comment-1679 <blockquote cite="comment-1654"> who invented sin…oh thats right SATIN…how many people have died from sin…hmmm lemy think….evey murder….every accsedent….oh thats right a HUGE NUMBER!!!! WHY DO U THINK GOD WILL KILL PEOPLE FOR NO RESON!!!!!!! LIKE IF U MADE SOMTHING WITH LEGOS THAT TOOK U A LONG TIME…U WOULDNT GO IN A TAKE IT ALL DOWN FOR NO RESON!!!! Dude if you really read YWHW created all that mean everything. Satan only showed man kind thru the fruit the difference between things. He has shown us many things that YWHW has hidden from us. Unlike your tyrant god Satan shows us how to be self reliant and to illuminate our selves which elevates us to be better. </blockquote>

who invented sin…oh thats right SATIN…how many people have died from sin…hmmm lemy think….evey murder….every accsedent….oh thats right a HUGE NUMBER!!!! WHY DO U THINK GOD WILL KILL PEOPLE FOR NO RESON!!!!!!! LIKE IF U MADE SOMTHING WITH LEGOS THAT TOOK U A LONG TIME…U WOULDNT GO IN A TAKE IT ALL DOWN FOR NO RESON!!!!

Dude if you really read YWHW created all that mean everything. Satan only showed man kind thru the fruit the difference between things. He has shown us many things that YWHW has hidden from us. Unlike your tyrant god Satan shows us how to be self reliant and to illuminate our selves which elevates us to be better.

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